Post-cardiac arrest care | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Theresa says

    Thank you for this site, it is most informative. My hospital participates in therapeutic Hypothermia, we call it “Dr.Cool”. It is very time consuming and requires one on one nursing care. For me I am a respiratory therapist, my job is to keep the abg’s at a proper level, I have to do serial abg’s in order to make sure the patient is not hyperventilated and I try to keep acidosis limited, I usually start to heat the ventilator circuits after 24 hours when the warming process begins. Capnography is very important. We usually have to make a couple of rounds to the cath lab but after that once we start warming the patient up we wait to see what happens. We only do this on witnessed arrests with proper cpr intervention on the scene. It is amazing to see people come back from it. The equipment for the systems are very expensive so I am sure your small hospital is not willing to pay for such a system. We only carry 2 systems ourselves due to the expense. The system comes with several body pieces in order to wrap and keep the body cold.
    Thanks again. T

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You should be tested on the ACS protocol in the written examination. I have not heard of anyone having to do a megacode scenario over the ACS protocol during ACLS certification.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Candice says

    If the decision point for initiating therapeutic hypothermia is whether or not the pt can follow commands, I am assuming the pt must be able to follow commands?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      More specifically, the AHA ACLS Manual states the patient has a “lack of meaningful response to verbal commands.” If the patient does not respond at all or comatose, therapeutic hypothermia should be initiated.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. firemedic433 says

    Is there a specific drug and dosage that should be used to reduce shivering during hypothermia therapy? I have not found an acls protocol. But I was quizzed on it and didn’t have an answer. I nailed the whole megacode, but felt like an idiot when asked about the shivering.

  4. terrielaverty@hotmail.com says

    Hi,
    in the manual on the pages 154, 155 (the megacode checklists) in the post cardiac arrest portion one of the criteria we are to verbalize is:need for ET intubation, etc, and orders lab tests. My question is what lab tests do they want us to verbalize? I searched for a list, I could guess, but want to be sure since it is on the megacode checklist. Thanks

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The comprehensive metabolic panel (CMP), complete blood count, and arterial blood gas (ABG) would all be important because several of the H’s and T’s will become identifiable.

      The CMP will show you the levels for potassium, sodium, calcium, magnesium, and glucose. This would tell you if you are dealing with hypo/hyperkalemia, hypo/hypernatremia, hypomagnesaemia, hypocalcaemia, hypo/hyperglycemia.

      The Complete Blood Count (CBC) will give you the hemoglobin and hematocrit which can indicate be an indicator of (H)ypovolemia

      The Arterial Blood Gas (ABG) can give you information about the patients respiratory status and pH.

      I would say that these three would be the most important (CBC, CMP, and ABG).

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. edwardsronaldj says

    For hospitals without facilities to achieve the ideal hypothermic goals, would lesser levels of lowering temp be useful, or is there a threshold pt must reach for benefit?

  6. Debra Rider says

    Does your facility temperature correct arterial blood gases during therapeutic hypothermia?
    We currently do not but now we are considering temperature correcting.
    Thoughts?
    Is temp correcting ABG’s part of ACLS guidelines?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The facility that I work for does not use therapeutic hypothermia at this time and I am not very familiar with temperature correction of arterial blood gases. AHA ACLS guidelines to given recommendation or guidelines for ABG’s. Kind regards, Jeff

  7. Phil says

    Just out of curiosity Jeff, how come your hospital does not have therapeutic hypothermia protocol after a cardiac arrest when it help improve patients neurologial state? Wondering the rationale as to why not use it?
    Thanks,
    Phil

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Therapeutic hypothermia is becoming more widely accepted. Unfortunately, the hospital that I work for is fairly small and moves quite slow when it comes to implementing new and cutting edge therapies.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  8. Susan Hoefer says

    wondering if the core temperature for therapeutic hypothermia can be monitored by an in situ rectal probe? We have the soft sided rectal probes that attach to the monitor…..

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Yes, this would be one way to accurately monitor core temp. Body temperature of patients in critical care units can be monitored with a variety of devices and at a variety of body sites. In recent years, monitoring of urinary bladder temperature has become common.
      There are a number of other devices that monitor core temp by tympanic membrane, pulmonary artery, distal esophagus, and nasopharynx as well.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Susan Hoefer says

        Thanks Jeff, I assumed so but was wondering if the formal answer for exam. It is very odd, I think, that the AHA would not make mention to this basic way of monitoring.

        Another question. How do you achieve the 4 degree temperature of IV fluid? I suspect that this would need to be cooled and ready to be of service. The only fridge we have with a temp monitor would be the immunization fridge but I think it ranges from 3 to 5. Kind regards, Susan

  9. Tanis Kohlen says

    Hi Jeff,

    Just wondering what the pathophysiology is behind the increased risk of hypoglycemia in the post-arrest phase?
    Thanks

    • Chris with admin. says

      In general hyperglycemia is more common than hypoglycemia is more common than hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia is seen in 14-18% of ROSC patients and typical causes included Underlying hepatic disease, immediate causes of the cardiac arrest i.e. hypotension, electrolyte/metabolic abnormality, and finally the longer the arrest the more likely the patient is to be hypoglycemic. Here is a link to where I found this data.
      Kind regards, Chris

  10. mbolam says

    Hi Jeff,
    I just did extensive research to update our policy on therapuetic hypothermia. The new terminology for the name is Targeted Temperature Management. The goal is to cool quickly…in 4 hours or less and re-warm very slowly over at least 12 hours. The esophageal probe is the most accurate core temperature measurement. There is no one cooling method that is better than another but the quicker you can get the pt cooled, the better. Love your site…it is a great review for ACLS. Thanks.

    • catmigrn says

      If the pt is alert and oriented after code and is breathing on their own heading to cath lab do we still subject them to the hypothermia? If so do we put the pt under sedation I can’t imagine the psychological issues that may come with freezing. I’ve read a story of a man having every s/s of freezing to death yet the temperature was 55 degrees, this is a true story. I guess my question is everytime a pt “codes” in the field yet is alert and oriented is the standard to use hypothermia regiman in every case?

      • Jeff with admin. says

        One of the qualifications for using therapeutic hypothermia in the post-cardiac arrest phase is that the patient does not follow commands and are essentially unresponsive.

        Here is the quote from the AHA ACLS provider manual pg. 76: “If the patient fails to follow commands, the healthcare team should consider implementation of therapeutic hypothermia.”

        The purpose of therapeutic hypothermia is to improve neurological outcomes after cardiac arrest.

        If the patient is alert and oriented, this means that they are neurologically intact. There would be not need to implement therapeutic hypothermia.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  11. Terry says

    Hi quick question concerning use of amiodarone. When a patient converts from v fib or pulseless vtach with just defibrillation and epi and no antiarrhythmic drugs are used does Heart still recommend a bolus of amio or lido followed by a drip?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Prophylactic use of Amiodarone or Lidocaine is no longer recommended by the AHA. Use of amiodarone in the post arrest phase is only indicated if it was used prior to ROSC. You can look in the following document. Regards, Jeff

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