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  1. Jalal says

    Imagine a patient brought to ER with SBP <90, sweating and chest pain and ECG shows Atrial fibrillation. TEE is performed and Shows thrombus. What should be our line of treatment? Should we go for cardioversion or should we initiate anticoagulation before cardioversion?
    Regards
    Jalal

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You would not want to use cardioversion with this patient at this time. The patient would probably be placed on some type of anticoagulant and given something to decrease the heart rate and possibly something to improve blood pressure.
      This patient would need to be medically managed until the patient could be seen by a cardiologist.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      For the patient who has atrial fibrillation, the indication for cardioversion would be if the patient is hemodynamically unstable. Some things to look for would be SBP< 90mmhg, altered mental status, and chest pain.
      Also, with atrial fibrillation a TEE (Transesophageal Echocardiogram) should be performed prior to cardioversion if the pt. has not had anticoagulant therapy. This would ensure that the patient did not have any type of thrombus that could worsen the patient’s condition if cardioversion is performed.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Ramki. says

    what is the drug of choice for AF ? Here our cardiologists use Amiodarone regularly. Do we have to treart rate & rhythm seperately in AF ?.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I would not say that there is one drug of choice for atrial fibrillation.
      In the critical care setting when atrial fibrillation is accompanied with a rapid ventricular rate amiodarone is used. Quite frequently, I have seen cardizem or some other calcium channel blocker used to slow the heart rate.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. Ilecia says

    Hi Jeff, I must say that I do love this site, it is helping me tremendously in preparing for ACLS coming up in the next 8 days.
    What are some of the beta blockers that are used in the stable tachyarrhythmias?

  4. Mommaroz says

    I think having a strip on top of all of the arrhythmia pages would be helpful. When I want to go back and forth between arrythmia’s to compare and figure out the difference in appearance I find it frustrating that I have to play the video for atrial fib to see a strip. Also if the videos had the capability to back up so you don’t have to replay the whole video when you don’t understand one little section that would be awesome. I seem to be having trouble recognizing atrial fib. Any hints? This site is great and has been extremely helpful. Thank you

    • Jeff with admin. says

      There is as image up on this page now. Thanks for pointing this out. Remember this for a-fib: Irregular rate and no P-waves. If you see an irregular heart rate and no p-waves, there is a high likelihood that you are dealing atrial fibrillation.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. SYED RAZA says

    Why choose Verapamil ?
    It depends if you are planning a rate control (option ) or rhythm control (not a good option) strategy.
    Beta blockers are however considered to be superior as far as the negative chronotropic effect is concerned.
    However, be careful if you are dealing with AF with pre-excitation i.e. WPW as using BB and Verapamil may be catastrophic,

    • Chris with admin. says

      I can’t really comment on it, because I haven’t used it in the pre-hospital
      setting. I performed a cursory literature search and could not find any
      studies comparing verapamil with say amiodarone or synchronized
      Cardioversion. I will look around a bit more and see what I can find.

      Kind regards,
      Chris

  6. itsKevin says

    Amiodarone seems to be a common choice among physicians for treating A-fib with RVR at the facility where I work. Giving a 150 mg bolus followed by a continueous infusion seems to do the trick. I can’t remember I time when this hasn’t worked for at least controlling the rate.

  7. LynzeN84 says

    I love this website, for the first time I feel like I will truly understand what is going on during a code, not just following instructions as a nurse. But I would like your opinion on something, I work on a cardiovascular step down unit and Im about to transition to the cardiovascular ICU, we work with CABG pts post op. We see A LOT of a-fib after surgery, do you think the electrial activity just gets “messed up” because of swelling of the heart? Not sure if I heard another medical professional tell a pt that or if honestly I just made it up in my head!! lol! Just wondering your opinion. And thanks again for this site, I will def recommend this site to my co-workers.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I can’t say that I have an opinion, but I did find some literature that might give some insight. Here is the link:

      Here are a couple of quotes from the article that may shed some light on the subject:
      “The precise mechanism of post-bypass AF is incompletely understood, and is still being investigated. In the predominantly elderly group of patients who undergo coronary bypass surgery, age-related structural changes such as atrial dilatation, hypertrophy, fibrosis and senile amyloidosis occur to varying degrees of severity in the atrium. This already heterogeneous myocardium, on being subjected to operative trauma and subsequent post-operative inflammation and edema, becomes a tissue mosaic of differing refractory periods and conduction velocities susceptible to aberrant electrical activity, conduction and re-entry – the ‘anisotropic’ atrium.
      “In patients with an anisotropic atrium, AF may be triggered by post-operative pericarditis, autonomic imbalance, withdrawal of beta blockers, fluctuating electrolytes and blood gases. Two thirds of the post-bypass AF occurs on the second or third day: this correlates with the development of post-operative inflammatory pericarditis and the inflammatory infiltration of the myocardium[12] that increase the anisotropic nature of the atrium. The post-operative autonomic imbalance is believed to sensitize the myocardium to arrhythmogenic insults.[13-17] The electrophysiological characteristics of atrial cells, action potential duration, refractoriness and conduction speed are all modulated in opposing ways by vagal and sympathetic influences. High vagal tone favors macro reentry, while increase in sympathetic tone favors abnormal automaticity and triggered activity. Fluctuations in autonomic tone, with a primary increase in adrenergic drive followed by a marked shift towards vagal predominance, have been noted just before the onset of AF in some patients.”

      Hope this helps.
      Also thank you for the encouraging feedback.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • erinlfisk says

      You can give Cardizem without medical control in MA for Afib/Aflutter. You obviously have to follow the standing orders which are if the patient is stable but symptomatic, and the heart rate is greater than 150, first dose .25mg/kg slow iv push over two minutes, then if in 15 minutes no change, can give the second dose at .35mg/kg slow iv push over two minutes. Protocols say if the heart rate is less than 150 then must contact medical control and if the second dose does not work. Just have to watch for people with WPW. Hope this helps. I just moved from MA to TN so have to learn a totally different way of thinking and freedom from medical control here aka most everything is standing order!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Yes both of these are new. AHA states:
      2010 (New): The recommended initial biphasic energy dose
      for cardioversion of atrial fibrillation is 120 to 200 J.

      Cardioversion of adult atrial flutter and other supraventricular
      rhythms generally requires less energy; an initial energy of
      50 to 100 J with either a monophasic or a biphasic device is
      often sufficient.
      From: Highlights of the 2010-2015 ACLS Guidelines

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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