Pulseless ventricular tachycardia | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Kamyar Maghazehe says

    I have a question, what happens after 2nd dose of Amiodarone is given and still in the same rhythm? Do we give a 3rd dose ultimately or rhythm usually changes after 2nd dose? Thanks for you help.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      A 3rd and even a 4th dose of 150 mg amiodarone can be administered. The only thing that needs to be taken into consideration is the 2.2-gram maximum dosage for 24 hours. Also, it is unlikely that the rhythm will remain VF or pVT long enough for you to get to the 3rd or 4th dose. Kind regards, Jeff

  2. David Jenkins says

    Hi, just to be clear, we will flush with 20ml NS immediately after the med is pushed. Then shock, then 5 cycles CPR?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Here is the sequence from the very beginning of the algorithm. This would be for unwitnessed cardiac arrest.

      CPR five cycles > rhythm check > shock > CPR five cycles > rhythm check > shock > CPR five cycles (give epinephrine during CPR and flush with 20 mL normal saline) > rhythm check > shock > CPR five cycles (give amiodarone during CPR) > rhythm check > shock > CPR five cycles……

      (once the first dose of epinephrine is given, it is on it’s own timetable and is given every 3 to 5 minutes.)

      Please let me know if you have any other questions.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. Dan says

    Hi Jeff,

    Many thanks for a very good article, I was just wondering about shocking VT; if it’s pulseless we do not synchronise but if pulse is present we do (with adverse signs)? Is it not the same rhythm and should be treated the same?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Pulseless ventricular tachycardia is treated with high energy unynchronized shocks. The research shows that there is a high degree of success with high-energy unsynchronized shocks when treating pulseless ventricular tachycardia. This is the reason why high energy unsynchronize shocks are used or pulseless ventricular tachycardia.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Ellen says

        Hi Jeff

        Please could you point me in the direction for citied research regarding vt/vf and high energy shocks as I’m currently researching for a dissertation for university. Thanks

      • Deborah Phillips says

        I’m confused. This seems to contradict itself or am I reading it wrong? It says to treat pulseless with synchronized, then says treat with unsynchronized? All in the same paragraph?

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Pulseless ventricular tachycardia is treated with unsynchronized shocks. I did notice in the comments that there was a miss spelling and I stated “on synchronized” instead of unsynchronized.

        This was a mistake that was made because I use a voice to text translation software. From time to time I do not catch the errors. My apologies for the confusion. I have corrected the error that was in the comments.
        Kind Regards, Jeff

  4. bob says

    After initiating CPR and assessing rhythm patient is in VF/ pVT and first shock is given, and CPR for 2mins. Then rhythm check and in VT, should the pulse be checked to confirm pVT?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      If there is no rhythm change and the same waveform of VT continues you would not need to perform a pulse check. Performing the pulse check would delay the continuation of chest compressions. Once VT is pulseless it is very unlikely that any VT will be able to produce life sustaining cardiac contractions.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. Jennifer says

    It seems like epinephrine is given regardless of PEA or pVT or VF, or asystole. Given regardless there is bradycardia or tachycardia. It seems like it’s always that go to med and first action that is drawn up and administered prior to any vasopressors, antihypertensive, antiarrhymtmias, or vasodilation medications, So is it fair to say that there is no way to definitively define or put into a category of to increase or decrease the P?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Epinephrine has several effects that are helpful in different situations and it is dose dependent. Epinephrine can be given to increase the heart rate, it is given to improve blood pressure, and it is given to circulation to the vital organs. It can also be given to cause mucosal vasoconstriction with serious cases of asthma.
      Each of these effects is basically dependent upon how much is given. It is a very versatile medication and is considered very important in emergency medicine.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  6. DanitaK says

    is there supposed to be sound to the videos? If so, I don’t have any sound and how do I fix this. Thank you.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      There are a couple videos that do you have audio narration. All of the mega code series videos have background music with text on screen to read. The volume control should be in the lower right-hand corner of the video player for a PC, and you can control the volume on an iPhone or android with your volume control just as with any audio play.

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      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Thank you for letting me know that you were having some difficulty viewing the videos. There can be a number of technical issues that can cause this problem.

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      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. Mohammad Akhtar says

    No option to get registered for Pakistani doctors .Very disappointing.Please update your countries option and include Pakistan as well.Regards.Dr Mohammad Akhtar.

  8. Ajc92289 says

    After the 3rd shock you give 300 mg of amiodarone. So after the 4th shock you’d give the 2nd dose of amiodarone the 150 mg?

    Thanks!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It can be given anytime after the fourth shock. It is not a requirement that is given directly after the 4th shock, but it may be given after the first dose of amiodarone has had sufficient time to circulate.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • John says

      Usually you would give Epinephrine 1mg after the 2nd defibrillayion. Then give Amiodarone 300mg and defibrillate again. Then you would give Epinephrine 1mg and Fefibrillate again. After that you would give 150mg of Amiodarone

      • Jennifer says

        The pretest on AHA has amiodarone being given after the 2nd shock (it sounds like). “A patient is in pVT. Two shocks and 1 dose of epinephrine have been given. Which drug should be given next?”

        I chose epinephrine and it stated that amiodarone 300mg was the correct answer. So that’s not actually correct. At least not for this scenario in which the other options are epinephrine 3mg, adenosine 6mg, and lidocaine 0.5mg/kg.

      • Jeff with admin. says

        The sequence cardiac arrest with pVT is as follows:
        Shock → 5 cycles CPR → Shock → 5 cycles CPR/Epi 1mg → Shock → 5 cycles CPR/Amiodarone 300mg → Shock → 5 cycles CPR (After the first dose of epi, it is on a time table of give every 3-5 minutes and a second dose of amiodarone can be given any time after the next shock as long as the first dose has had time to adequately circulate.)

        Amiodarone is given after the 3rd shock. You must have been mistaken about the AHA pretest. Here is a diagram and you can see that amiodarone is listed as being given after the 3rd shock.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  9. lullrich says

    Hi Jeff:

    Can you please tell me if on an ECG their is a difference in the tracing if the rhythm is generated in the atria or ventricle? On a couple of the tracings I see the QRS complex is downward instead of upward. I’m not really sure why the complex is “inverted” Thanks. Linda

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Whether or not the QRS complex is inverted depends upon what lead you are looking at. For the purposes of ACLS and rhythm recognition, you will not need to interpret what positively or negatively deflected QRS complexes mean. Positive and negative deflection of QRS complexes is a subject for understanding 12-lead ECG interpretation and is beyond the scope of ACLS.

      Does that make sense?

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  10. Joyce nelson says

    Can cardiac shock resuscitation injury the mitral and/or aorta valve?
    Also would anyone know if complete failure of blood flow (6ltrs of blood) bleed out could result in any pulmonary dysfunction? I.e. Hypertension?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Thanks for the questions. I’ll take them one at a time.
      Can cardiac shock resuscitation injury the mitral and/or aorta valve?
      This depends on a lot of factors. But I would say that it is possible that any part of the heart can be injured during cardiac resuscitation, not necessarily from a defibrillation, if that is what you are meaning when say “shock,” a dying heart is being revived and that heart muscle is “dying” from a lack of oxygen. When you take away the oxygen, the tissues get damaged. It is only after resuscitation when the full extent of the damage can be evaluated.

      “would anyone know if complete failure of blood flow (6ltrs of blood) bleed out could result in any pulmonary dysfunction? I.e. Hypertension?”
      Complete failure of blood flow most often times results in total death. If you take away the blood flow, you have taken away the oxygen. No oxygen, no life. There is a progression from a lack of oxygen in the tissues, to tissue hypoxia, to tissue injury, to tissue death and this can be any tissue involved including pulmonary tissue, cardiac tissue, any organ tissue. If not corrected the organism dies.

      So yes, complete failure of blood flow could result in pulmonary dysfunction.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Irene says

        Sorry, I can’t help myself… You refer above to “total death”. If there is a “total death”, it follows that there is such a thing as a “partial death”? What would that be?

        You made my day, and I just could not stop laughing!

        Was there a Torsades de Points there, as an example or was I just imaging that?

        Thanks

      • Jeff with admin. says

        LOL. I agree. I just re-read that, and I had to laugh too. Reminded me of a movie called the “Princess Bride.” A magician was trying to revive a princess who he said was “mostly dead.”

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  11. Kjkamk says

    Where have you been the last 9 times I’ve taken ACLS? Granted, it’s been simplified somewhat but this is so much better than just turning pages in a book!

  12. icecakes@aol.com says

    I am confused, it says to give Epi 1 mg and repeat in 3 to 5 min, when do u have time to give the second dose? it seems to me there is no time for the second dose of epi because after the next shock amiodarone will be given ?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Once the first dose of epinephrine is given after the 2nd shock, it is on it’s own time table and is not dependent on any other action in the flow of care. It is given on its own time table of every 3-5 minutes. When the recorder states “3 minutes has passed since the last dose of epinephrine”, you would give the epinephrine as soon as the next cycle of CPR begins. Kind regards, Jeff

  13. Sharain says

    The video states to shock ASAP. The reading states CPR then shock. I would want to shock right away. Which is correct?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      This means that defibrillation should just take place as soon as possible. If a collapse is witnessed you can shock immediately. If the collapse is unwitnessed, you would complete 2 minutes of high quality CPR then perform defibrillation.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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