2020 Bradycardia algorithm review | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Elizabeth Risner says

    Hi, this goes to Respiratory arrest: I wasn’t able to comment on that page. What does perfusing rhythm mean? You said to give 1 breath every 5-6 seconds for it. Thank you

  2. Elizabeth Risner says

    What if your patient is apneic, and their heart rate is rapidly deacreaing to sinus bradycardia with 30 bpm? Which medication would you give?

  3. Scarlett says

    To Carlene Bradley and also to Jeff:

    Thank you for the tips and assistance. I have ACLS coming up next month, so I am studying the books, this website etc. I appreciate your tip Carlene, about reassessing my patient when I need a little more time to find the correct answer. I am in a class where the instructors are so rough, they will make you cry. Students drop out very quickly. Last year, I think they only passed 2 students. You go the whole year passing the class then they fail you at ACLS. I have worked my whole life in the medical field and handled all types of emergencies very well, but these guys make me so nervous, I feel like they will be doing a code on me !

  4. Ina says

    Would there ever be a time when CPR is started for a patient with symptomatic bradycardia with a weak pulse? What if you don’t have a TCP and atropine doesn’t work?

    • Chris with admin. says

      Hello ,

      Great Question. All modern defibrillators should have the capability to transcutaneous pace. The only time that CPR should be performed is in the setting of cardiac arrest. If a patient has a pulse, chest compressions are actually contraindicated. From my experience with atropine and bradycardia, you will at least get a transient increase in heart rate. Other considerations would be to start a epinephrine drip or dopamine drip. Both of these drugs have good effect to increase heart rate. Chest compressions should only be performed in the setting of cardiac arrest. If the patient becomes pulseless then you can start chest compression. If breathing is ineffective at anytime, you can begin bag-mask ventilation.–Chris

  5. Carlene Bradley says

    Hey Scarlet, That’s a hard situation to be in. I can relate, I’ve been a Paramedic since 1994, back when the instructors seemed to relish making ACLS hell. My advise would be… It never hurts to state BSI and scene safety (good habit) also if your patient/monitor doesn’t do well, don’t let that rattle you, sometimes instructors will do that to “simulate” what happens in real life, so don’t take it as a sign that you ordered the wrong treatment, just deal with the new change and move on. Most important of all don’t get in a rush… if you feel stuck or lost just state ” I’d like to take a moment to reassess my patient” I’ve never seen anyone get in trouble for reassessing, checking for any change in the patient i.e. checking for pulse, still no pulse? etc. this is always good to do and will give you a little time to collect yourself.
    You say most people there don’t pass, that would indicate to me that your instructors are not doing their jobs as well as they should or they are creating a stressful testing environment, which is no more then psychological warfare if you ask me, they justify it by saying that real life codes are more stressful, yes, but it’s a different kind of stress and I don’t agree with these type of testing tactics, I’ve seen people so freaked out during testing that I thought we’d have to work a code on them, seriously (pale diaphoretic) it’s uncalled for. So recognize what they are trying to do and just follow the algorithm that’s in your head. Hope this helps. Best wishes.

  6. Scarlett says

    Can anyone give me any tips or pointers on how to pass the ACLS based upon their recent experience with it? Anything you may have encountered during the ACLS that would help someone pass, etc. ?

    I have to take it soon and the instructors are very hard nosed here. I have studied the books, studied the rhythms, etc. but if you miss one thing, they fail you and you are completely out of the class, losing a year’s work. Most people here do not pass it. Thank you for your help.

  7. Denise Earles says

    Wow! That sounds like a bad question, about the 3rd HB. Whenever looking at a rhythm we must also always always look at the patient. To make a decision on that question of the 3rd HB we need to know the signs and symptoms of the patient. And if my patient was in that rhythm and symptomatic I would call a code before he dies, not rapid response and end up calling a code anyway when he does die.

  8. Kiansu says

    3rd Degree Heart Block Question(HELP)
    TEST Question: Shows a 3rd HB Strip ONLY! Nothing else on the strip that indicates pts condition of Symptomatic or Non Symptomatic. However noted in study packet and have been informed and constantly reminded and drilled that 3rd HB is a LETHAL Rhythm. Made mention on numerous, numerous times of the 5 lethal (VF/Pulseless VT, PEA,Astoyle and 3rd HB
    NI:Get some help, call a code, begin cpr, epi (Nurse treats it as a critical lethal rhythm 1st)
    TPM,PPM and or TQP (Nurse indicates all these interventions) Instructor fails students due to calling a code and not a rapid response, beginning cpr and giving epi basically for treating the pt critically….Are Nursing interventions Wrong and requires failure and 3 day EKG class and Must pass next exam or out of the program….REALLY? Treating pt critically and lethally?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      First let me try and interpret what you said so I can make sure that I am answering your question: You are saying that you treated 3rd degree block by calling a code, beginning cpr and giving epi.

      3rd degree block CAN be a lethal rhythm, but many times a patient might be in a 3rd degree block and not be symptomatic. I have seen this myself.

      You should follow the bradycardia algorithm when treating bradycardia. Here is a link to the AHA ACLS Bradycardia algorithm: http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/122/18_suppl_3/S729/F3.large.jpg

      As you can see in the algorithm, Step 3. The decision point for treating bradycardia or monitoring is based on symptoms. If the patient has persistent symptoms from the bradycardia/bradyarrhythmia then you will treat by following the bradycardia algorithm. If not you monitor/observe.

      It would be very appropriate to active a rapid response team if you saw someone with a 3rd degree block on a monitor. 3rd degree block has a high likelihood of degrading into a lethal rhythm or a symptomatic bradycardia.

      Kind Regards,
      Jeff

  9. Dana Maes says

    It is always good to have reminders and prompts as we do not have code situations that often on our floor.

  10. Mary J Irving says

    I do so appreciate your reply so quickly. Since so much has changed with acls, it is nice to have the medication dosage on hand to for me.

    • jeff with admin. says

      3rd Degree HB is treated per the algorithm. Fist intervention can be atropine 0.5mg IV. However, AHA pg. 111 says this “do not rely on atropine in Mobitz Type II second-or third-degree AV block or in patients with 3rd degree aV block with a new wide QRS complex.” It does not mean that you can’t give it, but it does mean that you would not want the administration of atropine to delay TCP if the patient is showing signs of poor perfusion.

  11. rafik says

    It is the best site where we can learn and known every thing in ACLS, thank you , and I am very happy to discover this site. good luck for every one

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