ACLS and Amiodarone | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. JustAnotherResident says

    I just wanted to point out something that a lot of people tend to forget about ACLS. Just because ACLS is typically difficult to remember doesn’t mean that doing everything per ACLS protocol should be the ultimate goal of every provider. ACLS is a set of guidelines. Just like your gastroenterologist may ignore the guidelines and have you come in for a colonoscopy early, a doctor may not always follow ACLS guidelines. It is okay to not follow ACLS guidelines as long as you know what you are doing.

    Here’s an example:
    Most electrophysiologists believe that lidocaine provides better anti-arrhythmic effect than Amiodarone in patients with ischemia. If a patient developed chest pain and then went into V.fib or VT, most cardiologists would prefer that Lidocaine be used over Amiodarone.

    In one of the comments, there was a question about SVT being treated with Amiodarone. If the EKG is suspicious for pre-excitation and you give adenosine, you will most likely kill the patient (presuming patient isn’t dead already). Amiodarone or Procainamide are better options.

    ACLS is a two minute summary of electrophysiology which requires a 4-year MD, 3-years of Internal Medicine, 3-years of Cardiology and 2 years of Electrophysiology training. Please keep that in mind.

    • Chris says

      Great analysis. I have been a paramedic for 26 years. I really saw better results with Bretyllium than any other med for refractory v-fib. I don’t know if it’s because we keep these patients on other meds prior to arrest now and the etiology of the arrest is different or just because we stopped using Bretyllium. I would love to see a comparison of the two drugs. Every time I ever used Bretyllium that patient walked out of the hospital at some point. I have yet to see that result with Amiodorone.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      There are a number of things that can be done. Much of it depends on how high the rate is, what the patient symptoms are, and what pre-existing comorbidities the patient has. The most common intervention would probably be the administration of a beta blocker or calcium channel blocker if the patient’s blood pressure is within normal limits. It would be wise to consult with a cardiologist at this point. Kind regards, Jeff

  2. Vito says

    Just wondering why only 450-600mg of amiodarone in cardiac arrest. I was always told it’s metabolically related but am looking for a more concrete answer. Thank you very much.

    • JustAnotherResident says

      The loading dose of Amiodarone has to do with the volume of distribution and the time it takes to redistribute in the cells. Rapid IV pushes will attain adequate concentrations in the serum with a much smaller dose than 24-hour loading protocols.

      Anti-arrhythmics are more complicated than typical medications because it’s not just about the serum concentration but also the concentration that builds up in the myocardium.

  3. M says

    Based on the the mechanism of action of the class 3 antiarrythmics drug, Amiodarone,
    it will prolongs the action potential duration and the QT interval. An article in the JACC journal also mentioned that it will prolongs the QT interval.

    But, from what I know is, prolonged QT will increase the risk of developing ventricular arrhythmias.

    Can u explain more on it? Thanks. 🙂

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Prolonged QT interval means that there is delayed repolarization of the heart following a heartbeat and an increased absolute refractory period. Delayed repolarization and the increased absolute refractory period can increase the risk for torsades de pointes and VF. During this absolute refractory period of the muscle cells, a second action potential cannot be initiated. This means another part of the heart may depolarize during repolarization, and this can propagate an arrhythmia such as VF or Torsades. Hope that makes sense. Kind regards, Jeff

  4. A says

    I saw a doctor give Amiodarone when a patient went into SVT. Is that a mistake? or can it also convert SVT? It did not convert the patient’s SVT whom he gave it to.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It would not normally be the medicaton or first choice. The common SVT can be treated quite effectively using adenosine and if vagal maneuvers fail, the drug of first choice would be adenosine. No sure why the physician decided to use amiodarone.

      Amiodarone would not be contraindicated, but it would not be the drug of first choice according to AHA protocol.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It can be given any time after the 4th shock during CPR. The important thing is to ensure that the first dose had plenty of time to circulate. 3-5 minutes is sufficient for this.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. Tammy12 says

    I made a screen shot of your ACLS drug table and printed it to add my notes to it. It is curious to see the main drugs (Epi, Atropine, Amiodarone, etc) in red on your table print faintly, yet the secondary drugs (magnesium, diltiazem, digoxin, etc) print out more defined. I appreciate the red print emphasizing the important drugs, but when printed, it results in the de-emphasis of those drugs. Great teaching site!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Thanks for pointing this out. The text is red due to the fact that they are text links that point to other pages. I will try and come up with a solution for this. I can see your point about the printed text. This has never been pointed out to me before. Thank you for the feedback. Kind regards, Jeff

  6. Lourdesrn says

    I have given the 150 mg iv/10 min for VT with pulse, and it works beautifully, usually followed with drip. For VT without pulse your write: 300mg IV/IO push → (if no conversion) 150 mg IV/IO push → (after conversion) Infusion #1 360 mg IV over 6 hours (1mg/min) → Infusion #2 540 mg IV over 18 hours (0.5mg/min). If pt does not convert, what dosage can be given next and how many times. thank you for this amazing website.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The 150mg can be repeated a 2nd time during the code. The maximum 24 hour cumulative dose is 2.2 grams.
      It is unlikely that the patient will convert with extra amio. if they do not convert after giving 300mg then 150mg then 150mg, I have never seen anything beyond the 2nd dose of 150 mg of amiodarone given.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. ealinet@gmail.com says

    just for clarification? Amiodarone can be diluted with NS for initial emergency bolus, but if used in an IV drip must be used with D5W.

  8. dan edgar says

    I learned a lot just reading this thread. Thank you for providing us with this education and the benefit of your knowledge

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You can, but it is no longer recommended by the AHA to give amiodarone for the prophylactic treatment of arrhythmias. AHA recommends its use if arrhythmias persist in the post resuscitation period.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Gabe says

        Hello,

        Current Paramedic student. I am doing a presentation on Amiodarone.
        You stated that it is no longer recommended by the AHA to administer Amiodarone for preventative treatments .

        ” (after conversion) Infusion #1 360 mg IV over 6 hours (1mg/min) → Infusion #2 540 mg IV over 18 hours (0.5mg/min)”

        Wouldn’t this be considered prophylactic treatment ?

        Much appreciated for the clarification , great page!

      • Jeff with admin. says

        The above-recommended infusions are referring to the use of amiodarone for conversion of tachyarrhythmias within the tachycardia algorithm or for tachyarrhythmias that reoccur in the post-cardiac arrest period. This would not be considered prophylactic use since you are directly treating an existing tachyarrhythmia.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  9. N Mac says

    When given during an active resus (1 x 300 MG and 1 x 150 MG, I.O. Route) with a non shockable rhythm is this detrimental to the overall outcome of the casualty….less than 20 minutes submersion with 45 mins basic low quality Intermittent CPR?
    Many thanks

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You would not use amiodarone in the case of a non-shockable rhythm during a resuscitation. Amiodarone is an antiarrhythmic and within ACLS protocol it would be used in the treatment of rhythms that would be considered shockable. VT, Pulseless VT, and VF.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  10. Lisa says

    Patient came from ED to ICU on an Amiodarone gtt. Had been shocked once successfully in ED. Continued persistent runs of vfib vs vtach. Began to experience bradycardia low 40’s (not just pauses). Should amio have been immediately turned off?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Not necessarily. It really depends on the cause of the bradycardia. In this situation, amiodarone may be a relative contraindication and a cardiologist should be the one to make the call to turn off the amiodarone. Amiodarone may have been absolutely necessary to prevent any further VF or VT. This would be a hard call, and there would be no definite right answer.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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