ACLS and Vasopressin | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Fran giles says

    Other than the half life, is there some kind of physiologic contraindication to giving vasopressin?
    For example, in a long code lasting greater than 20 mins, can you theoretically give vasopressin again? Thx

  2. Jamie Dora says

    When giving vasopressin via et tube, should 40mg or 80mg be given? I know medications that can be given this way are usually 2-2.5 times the iv dose but I can’t find any specific recommendations for it and our crash carts only have a total of 40mg.

    Thanks

    • Jeff with admin. says

      According to the literature, there is insufficient evidence for recommendation of a specific dose of vasopressin per the endotracheal tube.
      I would just use the 40 units in your situation.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      According to the literature, there is insufficient evidence for recommendation of a specific dose of vasopressin per the endotracheal tube.
      I would just use the 40 units in your situation.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. John Fisher says

    If vasopressin is given during a VT?VF arrest, then the patient later develops PEA, can you give vasopressin again right away? Or 20 minutes after the 1st?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You would only want to give the vasopressin just one time. After the one dose of vasopressin you would administer epinephrine. The half-life of vasopressin is around 20 minutes.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  4. scrock says

    When substituting vasopressin for epinephrine do you have to wait 10 minutes before the next epinephrine ?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      No. You can wait 3-5 minutes and then give the epinephrine. Since the vasopressin is only given 1 time, you can stick with the 3-5 minute rule and continue on with epinephrine.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. kurt says

    The bottled pictured is IM or SC only not IV so cannot be given IV pitressin is IV form? Or do you give IV the IM formula? Labeling issue or should be made clearer that get inj for IV for crash carts.

  6. Tim says

    The ACLS video said regardless of which vasopressin you use, the dose should be given every 3-5 minutes. Is this for vasopressin also? Or do you give vasopressin every 20 minutes?
    Thanks.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The vasopressin is a one-time dose used to replace the first or second dose of epinephrine. After given, it IS NOT given again and epinephrine is resumed every 3-5 minutes.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Vasopressin, as with all other drugs used in the pulseless arrest algorithm, is pushed as fast as possible. After giving the medication, it is followed with a 20ml flush that is given as fast as possible. Your desire should be that the medication is pushed into the central circulation as fast as possible.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. Nick says

    Why can vasopressin only replace the first or second dose of epinephrine during resuscitation? I know that you only need to use it once but can it be used later on, such as after 2 doses of epinephrine? Is there evidence to explain why it can ONLY be used to replace the first or second dose?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Vasopressin is recommended to be given in replace of the first or second dose of epinephrine because the duration of time that it may take for vasopressin to have peak effect is considerably higher than epinephrine. The half-life of vasopressin is 10-20 minutes compared to epinephrine at 3-5 minutes. It is prudent therefore to give the vasopressin earlier in the dosing schedule.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  8. Jenn K says

    Is there any harm in giving EPI before or concurrent with the two rounds of defibrillation? I read your answer on why it isn’t recommended before the two defibrillations, but I’m still confused as to why it can’t be given with the shocks.
    Thank you!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      In my experiences, I have seen epinephrine given as soon as possible if it does not delay chest compressions or defibrillation.
      However, since there is no clinical evidence that epinephrine or vasopressin improve survival to hospital discharge, it should not be emphasized in any way over chest compressions and defibrillation.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  9. Brittany says

    I have heard that after giving a dose of vasopressin another vasopressor (epinephrine) isn’t needed for another 10 minutes (instead of the 3-5 minutes epinephrine suggests), is this true? If so, what evidence supports this?

    Thanks!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Vasopressin should only be administered once because, the half-life of vasopressin is 10-35 minutes. This means that it will remain in the system for at least 20 minutes.
      The reason why epinephrine is give every 3-5 minutes is that the half-life of is 2-3 minutes. This means that it will remain in the system for at least 4 minutes.
      Vasopressin should only need to be given once during a code.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Josiah EMT says

        The asystole/PEA algorithm says Epi should be used 3-5 mins after Vasopressin. Are you saying we should wait 20 mins before administering Epi? Does this produce a “stacking” effect or are they complementary?

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Vasopressin can be used once in replace of the first or second dose of epinephrine. After the vasopressin is given, the epinephrine is given 3-5 minutes later, and after this, the epinephrine is continued every 3-5 minutes. Only one dose of vasopressin would be used in most arrest scenarios.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

      • Jeff with admin. says

        You would not have any problems repeating the epinephrine 3-5 minutes after vasopressin. If you repeated the vasopressin, you would have a build-up in the system since the half-life of vasopressin is much longer.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  10. BearRN61 says

    Rhythm analysis VF
    Shock
    2 min CPR
    Rhythm analysis VF
    Shock
    2 min CPR/epi (once the first dose of epinephrine is given, epi is every 3-5 min on it’s own time-table)
    Rhythm analysis VF
    Shock
    2 min CPR/amiodarone (300mg)
    Rhythm analysis VF
    Shock
    2 min CPR/amiodarone (150mg)
    Rhythm analysis Organized rhythm (check pulse-no pulse)
    2 min CPR/epi
    Rhythm analysis Pea (no pulse)
    …….
    In the set you give above, you state that Epi is now on its’ own time table . . .so where does the dosing of the Epi fit in for the second, third, fourth doses etc. especially since you are attempting amiodarone in the sequence . . .it just seems that a dose of epi would be appropriate before the first dose or after the amiodarone and before the Rhythm analysis after the first dose of Ami . . .is that correct? or am i reading too much into it .. .?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The first dose of epinephrine is given after the 2nd shock during CPR. After this it is given every 3-5 minutes.
      The first dose of amiodarone is given after the 3rd shock during CPR.

      No need to read into it any more than that.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  11. Heather says

    Vasopressin is on manufacturer back order and we need to update crash cart. Ephedrine has been suggested, is this correct? If so, what is the dosage?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I have not seen ephedrine suggested as a replacement for vasopressin. Within ACLS protocol the first line drugs are epinephrine and vasopressin. If you don’t have vasopressin, use epinephrine.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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