2020 Bradycardia algorithm review | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. abosuyonov says

    Thank you very much .
    Just a question.
    A pt with symptomatic Functional or relative bradycardia with HR of 80 do we or not use the bradycardia algorithm ?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      In this situation, you would not necessarily follow the algorithm. Clinical discretion would be warranted because there are some comorbidities that could be made worse by interventions within the algorithm particularly the use of atropine. If you cannot get immediate expert consultation, best option for symptomatic bradycardia with a rate greater than 80 would be the cautious use of TCP. Also, the cautious use of pressers to maintain blood pressure should be considered.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Elisha says

    Hi Jeff

    I was told by a senior trauma nurse during a resuscitation (initial bradycardia leading to PEA post polytrauma) to administer 1 mg atropine and 1 mg epinephrine at the same time as soon as possible. Having done the ACLS course a year ago my understanding was that one would use one or the other at 4 minute intervals. What is the effect of atropine and concurrent adrenaline administration in a pulseless patient? Should I be concerned?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The use of atropine for PEA is not recommended because there has been no evidence that it improves outcomes.

      There are some physicians that continue to use this treatment along with epinephrine, and this would be per their own discretion.

      I don’t think you would have anything to be concerned about with regard to malpractice. Physiologically speaking, atropine would potentially increase the heart rate and epinephrine would increase heart rate and vasoconstrict. There would be no contraindication with this, but it is just not recommended per the American Heart Association guidelines.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. Sara says

    In treating reflex bradycardia caused by phenylephrine, would atropine still be the drug of choice? In this case, I was also wondering if an alpha blocker such as phentolamine be effective.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I was not sure on this question since I don’t deal much with phenylephrine. I spoke with my younger brother who is a nurse anesthetist and asked him how he would handle the situation. This is what he says :

      “I don’t treat the bradycardia unless it gets really low. The half-life of phenylephrine is short. If it does get to low I usually use glycopyrrolate first if it still stays low then I use atropine. If I give glycopyrrolate I usually start at .1 mg.”

      Hope that helps.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Transcutaneous pacing (TCP) is performed by placing pads on top of the skin (transcutaneous). These pads conduct an electrical current that stimulate the heart to contract. TCP is used when sever bradycardia leads to decreased circulation which is the same as poor blood perfusion.

      The following link is just as good an explanation as any on the web: Transcutaneous pacing.

      Kind regards, Jeff

  4. brendamcginnity says

    In the 2016 ACLS manual , on Bradycardia it lists Dopamine dosages from2-20 mcg/kg/min. Is this now correct? your course lists dopamine 2-10 mcg/kg/min. It is confusing. Brenda

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Over the past several months revisions have been made to the site to reflect the new 2015-2020 AHA ACLS Guidelines. 2-20 mcg/kg/min for the dopamine infusion is the correct dosing according to the new guidelines. Kind regards, Jeff

  5. jlaroza says

    Hi Jeff,

    Great site, its very informative. I did not see much information on Heart block, Is it a topic that is not discussed in detail for ACLS?

    Thanks,
    Jlaroza

  6. michaelgv says

    I’m unclear about the dopamine solution 200mg in 100ml= 2000mcg/ml. Please check my math but it seems to me that if I’m treating a 70 kg person 2mcg/kg/min would then be 140mcg/min and 10mcg/ml/min would be 1400mcg/min. Even at the higher dose the drip is only running at about 0.7ml/min, while at the lower dose the rate would be 0.07ml/min. The latter rate seems like a difficult rate to monitor, even with an infusion pump. Wouldn’t a larger initial volume be better?

    Thanks.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Dopamine is usually prepared by mixing 800mg dopamine in 500ml of NS for a concentration of 1600 mcg/ml. This can also be done by mixing 400mg dopamine in 250ml of NS. At least this is how I have always seen it mixed.
      However, I will look at it your way for the math. 200mg in 100ml = 2mg/ml = 2000 mcg/ml. A 70kg person receiving 2 mcg/kg/min would receive 140 mcg/min. The same 70 Kg person receiving 10mcg/kg/min would receive 700 mcg/min.
      Now first, convert mcg/min to mg/hr. 700mcg/min=42,000mcg/hr=42mg/hr
      Now second, convert mg/hr to ml/hr. dose ordered/dose available x volume avaliable 42mg/200mg x 100= 21 ml/hr (The rate would be 21 ml/hour).
      I’m not sure where you went wrong on the math, but this is how I would calculate it. You can also use the calculator found here: infusion calculator

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • jinhomc says

        Both of you have the same calculation, but Jeff, unfortunately, your reply is not answering his question…

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Michael,
      If you are infusing 0.7ml/min this would work out to 42ml/hr. I don’t see why you think that it would be a problem to control/monitor this rate. We do it all of the time. Small dose/min dose not equate to small effectiveness. Dopamine is very effective in minute doses/min. and fairly easy to monitor if you have an arterial line to determine second by second blood pressure. Even if you have an automatic BP cuff, you can perform minute to minute BP’s to titrate the dopamine for effect. Kind regards, Jeff

  7. Dacite says

    Hey!

    Would one use atropine i/v undiluted? Or with 5 % glucose? If with glucose, how much? Thank you!

    kind regards,
    DZ

    • Jeff with admin. says

      When using atropine within the bradycardia algorithm, atropine will be given undiluted and followed with a 20 mL flash of normal saline.

      Atropine found on crash carts usually comes in pre-fill ready to administer syringes.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Epinephrine IV infusion for bradycardia: Add 1mg epinephrine with 500ml of NS or D5W.
      Dopamine IV infusion for bradycardia: Add 200mg of dopamine (5ml) to 95ml of compatible IV fluid (NS, or D5NS) (i.e. 200mg in 100ml)
      Kind regards, Jeff

  8. Al says

    In ACLS Bradycardia algorithm is it necessary to max out the dose of atropine first (3mg) before proceeding to do TCP or Epi or Dopa?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      No it is not necessary to max out the atropine dose before proceeding on to TCP or chemical pacing. In fact, you are encouraged to not delay pacing for the administration of atropine in unstable patients with poor perfusion. Kind regards, Jeff

  9. Heber Rodriguez says

    Inferior MI’s can cause bradycardia. Under this circunstances atropine is contraindicated, and nitroglycerin should be used. We identify these patients using an 12 lead, so does it mean that we always need to do an 12 lead EKG before giving atropine?? Thank you

    • seaschelle1 says

      Im confused. About the statement above. I thought nitro was contraindicated in right vent infarcts that are most commonly associated with inferior wall MI’s. Could you please clarify. thanks

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Yes, you are correct. In the comment that the user (Heber) made, they mistakenly stated that nitro would be used. This is incorrect. Nitroglycerine would be contraindicated for inferior wall MI until an ECG is performed and right ventricular involvement is ruled out. Morphine would also be contraindicated until RVI is ruled out.
        Thank you for pointing this out.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

      • lsedgwick says

        Glad someone else picked this up. Inf MI must confirm no RVF prior to administering nitrates as these pts are preload dependent. Look for hypotension with elevated JVD and clear lungs.

    • Jarod says

      A 12-lead should be performed prior to any Rx intervention. Ruling out right side involvement with inferior AMI is extremely important in considering NTG administration. MS is indicated in AMI (excepting right-sided MI) primarily due to it’s vasodilatory effects, not analgesia (this is a latent benefit), therefore fentanyl could be used to help with pain but would not work to the same end as MS and is not generally recommended in my experience. Remember that both MS and fentanyl can result in respiratory depression, so consider the pt.’s status carefully before administration. Bradycardia can often be a natural protective mechanism in AMI to reduce myocardial oxygen demand, and should NEVER be treated solely based on the rate. A pt. who is SYMPTOMATIC for bradycardia related complications should be treated accordingly. This may sometimes require a Rx such as oxygen, fluids, dopamine or dobutamine (both result in relatively minimal myocardial oxygen demand compared with atropine or epinephrine), and possibly TCP.

  10. Ronnie para uk says

    Hi, at present Uk paramedics are prohibited from tcp. Is it possible that with a patient presenting Brady due to a type 2 block, giving atropine could worsen the block? For example a type 2 mobitz progressing to complete heart block or a complete block into a systole. Due to the nature of these blocks, the problem lies below the AV node?

    Many thanks

    • Jeff with admin. says

      In most cases of Mobitz 2, atropine will not work and can worsen the patient’s condition. Atropine can cause degeneration to 3rd degree block.

      Atropine increase firing of the SA node and conduction through the AV node.

      In most cases Mobitz 2 is a disease of the distal conduction system (His-Purkinje System). Atropine’s affects are above this and therefore atropine will most likely have no effect on Mobitz 2.

      High degree blocks (Mobitz 2 and 3rd degree block) will usually not improve with atropine.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • sweetbluesgirl says

        So if the patient presented with a heart rate showing high degree block, would the treatment of choice be TCP and/or Epi or dopamine infusion?

        Thanks,
        Gizelle

      • Jeff with admin. says

        It would depend upon whether the patient had signs of poor perfusion. If she had signs of poor perfusion, TCP, EPI, or dopamine would be indicated and should be administered.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  11. goar0701 says

    What is the recommended medication for sedation in a patient who will be given with TCP and/or Cardioversion?

    Thanks!!!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      There are not specific recommendations for sedation/analgesia. Probably the two most common is morphine and versed.
      The object is to titrate an analgesic or sedative to control any major discomfort.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • S Microys says

        I frequently do sedation for cardio version in a large tertiary Center and all that is needed is very small dose of propofol. It is not painful so narcotics are not necessary and only delay awakening and increase risk.

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