2020 Bradycardia algorithm review | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. goar0701 says

    I’ve no taken ACLS for more than 12 years and I’m confused now, for ACLS protocol is Bradycardia considered less than 60/min or less than 50/min

    • Jeff with admin. says

      For ACLS protocol, what is important is whether the patient is symptomatic.
      Here is the quote directly from the AHA provider manual.
      “Any rhythm disorder with a heart rate <60/min. When the bradycardia is the cause of symptoms, the rate is generally<50/min.” AHA Provider manual pg. 107

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Yes, atropine could be used to treat relative bradycardia. In these situations, you would want to ensure that significantly increasing the heart rate will not worsen the patient’s condition. For instance, in the case of MI, significantly increase the heart rate with atropine could worsen the ischemia to the heart.
      You would treat relative bradycardia just as you would treat any bradycardia. Use the bradycardia algorithm and consider the H and T’s for bradycardia.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Manuel Mallol says

    I read the NEJM publication about outcomes of some cohort using dopamine vs NA, showing an elevation of mortality rate using dopamine in cardiogenic and septic shock. Now, in many ICU and emergency units we don’t give dopamine to our patients with a synthomatic bradycardia with complete AV block. My question is about dopamine vs another vasoactive drug, if I don’t have transcutaneous pacemaker.

    Thank you in advance,
    Manuel.

    • NM Baillie says

      In the past the good old standby drug used as a “Pacemaker” was Isuprel, a pure beta agonist ,which seems to have fallen into disfavor. Comments?

      A suggestion inre ACLS Cardiac Arrest Algorithm.Why not raise the patient’s legs, or at least utilise the Trendelenberg position to provide added central volume by “auto-transfusion”. The degree of extra volume provided could easily be adjusted by what would be such simple and non-invasive manouvers . As many will have observed, when patients are “crashing” during even very cautious induction for CABG surgery, with low LVEF, raising adults’ legs can provide 1.0 to1.2 L auto- transfusion with laudable results.I used the latter example to illustrate the point,and am aware that it is not strictly analogous.Feedback please.

  3. Alison Miller says

    Please clarify: in the above algorithm, for Dopamine it’s written as “Dosage is 2-10 micrograms/kg/min infusion.” For Epinephrine, it’s written as “Dosage is 2-10 micrograms/min.” Is Dopamine weight driven and epi is not? Or is this a typo?

    Thanks!!

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Within the bradycardia algorithm, the dopamine drip is weight based and the epinephrine drip is not. Epinephrine is 2-10 mcg/min and dopamine is 2-10 mcg/kg/min.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  4. Jon says

    Hey, I’ve got a scenario that I am hoping you could give me some feedback on. 58 y/o female with every text book S/S of ACS, Short of vomiting, syncope, or AMS. Pt has PMHx of AMI and also said her that in the past her BP has bottomed out during cardiac events. Over the past couple weeks, Pt has been popping Nitro like tictacs. She took x3 rounds of NTG with in the last hour or two before she called 911. The last round of NTG was 15 mins ago before.

    Her BP is now 80/40. Her ecg revealed sinus Brady with a HR ranging btwn 50-60 BPM. ST elevation at 1mm to just barely 2 mm ST across inferior leads and reciprocal changes suggestive of a RCA occlusion. We gave ASA, started a NS fluid bolus, and 2 lpm of O2 to maintain SaO2 at 99%, and activated the cath lab (largely based off Pt presentation). Approx 15 min emergency transport to the hospital.

    I was on the fence about giving Atropine, to boost cardiac output in hopes of helping out her BP, but ultimately elected not to. My reasoning was that the cause of hypotension was reduced preload due to an right-sided/ inferior AMI and NTG overload. I was worried that Atropine would caue increased Cardic O2 consumption and create an increased work load on the heart. I didn’t want to throw more drugs on the mess already created, and possibly cause more harm than good. I imagined a worse case scenario of creating a second or third degree heart block, since this type of AMI is notorious for causing Infarction damage to the AV node,

    Was I out of line wth my thinking? And I was wondering where to draw the line between the Brady Cardic and ACS algorithms, or if they should be conducted simaltaneously? My thoughts at the time was that I would start TCP if her heart rate dropped into the 40’s, but it never dropped below 50 bpm. Thanks in advance for your feedback.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I think that you made the right choice to hold the Atropine. You are correct in that atropine could have pushed the workload up and worsened an infarction. The BP was borderline and I would have been satisfied with this BP at 80/40. You made the right decision to use TCP if the HR dropped below 40. I think that your decisions were well thought out and correct given the situation. You can use both the ACS algorithm and Bradycardia algorithm at the same time. Just make your decisions with saving as much of the myocardium as possible.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • khawla says

      Could atropine be given as IV infusion in bradycardia?? and if possible what is the conc and max rate of infusion

      • Jeff with admin. says

        The half-life of atropine is 2 hours. Therefore, it would not be necessary to give it as an infusion. Something with a half-life of this length should be given as needed by IV bolus. There would be better medication to use in this type of situation. You would use dopamine or epinephrine. These 2 medications have been found to be very effective in the treatment of symptomatic bradycardia.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Atropine as a potent anticholinergic agent has been employed as a continuous infusion in the treatment of tetanus and organophosphate poisoning. Kind regards, Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Not necessarily. The patients clinical condition would determine this. If you have given 2 doses of atropine and have not seen any changes in the patients clinical condition, you would prepare for the use of chemical or electrical pacing. If the patient’s clinical condition is worsening, DO NOT delay pacing for continued use of atropine.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. Kelvan_18 says

    Would you pace a patient with complete heart block with HR 20’s bp 120/70. What if he is completely symptoms free?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Not necessary, but I would have the patient monitored and attached to TCP in the case that it was needed. I doubt that you will see many patients who have a heart rate of 20 without symptoms. Kind regards, Jeff

  6. Carrie says

    According to the AHA, can a nurse certified in ACLS pace symptomatic bradycardia without a physician order? I thought I remember reading about this topic in the book but now can’t find it. I’m a new instructor and have had questions from learners. Thank you.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      If you did not have a direct physician order, you would need some type of standing order that your hospital or facility already had in place.

      A nurse would not be able to implement pacing without some type of physician order whether it is a standing order, direct verbal order or written order.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. hjc says

    Setting a couple Milli-Amp above the capture point rooted from the 1960s when impedance and development of insulation at the contact of the pace site that occasional lost of capture occurred.

  8. Emi says

    I have 61 y-male patient with STEMI and TAVB. BP 110/50 mmHg, HR 24 bpm, RR 12x/min. The patient is compos mentis. There is no TPM in my hospital. The therapy are atropin 3×0,5 mg, heparin infusion 10 ui/kg/hr, aspilet 1×80 mg, CPG 1×75 mg. is it sufficient? Do the patient need chemical pacing?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I’m sorry to hear about this situation, and I do apologize that I cannot answer your question. This site is for educational purposes only and law prohibits me from giving any type of real medical advice for an actual patient. Any time that you want to email about any kind of educational scenario, I could answer this type of question. If you send any questions please word them like this. “If I had a patient with…” or “If I was dealing with….” Or “suppose I had a scenario like this… “

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  9. lavinia says

    I hv a 75 yo pt who presented with history of syncope and stopped breathing at home.also with chestpain.he is known hhypertensive on a milo ride and aspirin.ecg show increased PQ interval .I hv no access to 12 lead ecg though.advise.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I cannot give medical advice, but I can say that in this situation, I would want to control the patient’s pain. If the patient was a candidate, I would also consider fibrinolytic therapy. If you don’t have access to basic equipment like an ECG, you should consider developing protocols and algorithms for treating patients in your setting with the things that you have available.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  10. Nicola says

    Hello Jeff,
    Would you treat a 76 yo m patient with the bradycardia algorithm who initially complained of chest pain and a syncopal episode. Now presenting with mild difficulty breathing, alert and oriented x4, a Bp 112/68, feeling of impending doom ECG showing second degree type 1 av block at a rate of 60?

    Since 60bpm is not Brady and he is normotensive….inspite of impending doom (not unstable, but symptomatic)……?
    O2, IV, monitor, 12 lead. Reassure, Keep pacer pads on in case he deteriorates or become symptomatic. I get a little hung when the ranges are right there…. What are your thoughts?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I would first treat the patient with the Acute Coronary Syndrome Algorithm. This scenario sounds like a possible MI. I would not treat with the bradycardia algorithm at this time.
      The patient should be admitted to a telemetry unit. Provide O2 if needed. Q 8 hour troponin levels and 12 Lead ECG. Monitor for increased pain, syncope, or other symptoms. Observe for 24 hours and perform a stress test if the patient has any further symptoms.
      If the patient develops bradycardia treat per the bradycardia algorithm. You would not need to leave the patient attached to a pacemaker if the heart rate is normal and the patient is stable. Those are my thoughts.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Chemical pacing is when IV medications (epinephrine or dopamine) are used to increase the heart rate rather than the pacemaker which uses electricity to increase the heart rate.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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