ACLS and Amiodarone | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Rishi Patel says

    1) what is the smallest/largest recommended daily dose of amiodarone?
    2) what is the permitted daily intake of amiodarone?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Information provided is for emergency use. That is within the scope of ACLS.
      1. The smallest dose is 150 mg IV push. The largest recommended dose is 300 mg IV push.

      2. The permitted maximum dose for amiodarone is 2.2 g in a 24 hour

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You can give the 2nd dose of amiodarone any time after the 4th shock as long as it is given while chest compressions are being performed. Also, you want to ensure that the 1st dose of amiodarone is fully circulated with high-quality CPR prior to the 2nd dose being given.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Dr.Hameed Chaudhari; Latur;India says

    Do you suggest Oral Amidarone as a prophylactic Antiarrythmic Drug to a patient of Revived cardiac arrest ( V.Fib/pVT)

    • Jeff with admin. says

      AHA no longer recommends the prophylactic use of amiodarone. Amiodarone can be used if VT or VF reoccur. In this case, an IV bolus of amiodarone would be the best choice. Oral amiodarone would not be a consideration within the critical care setting during an emergency.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  3. Paula says

    I just want to ask about amiodarone – to be given or not?
    If there a VT with pulse in the ambulance on the way to the hospital, with poor ejection fraction and pulmonary oedema and BP at lower side at arrival to the A&E, would you consider still loading with amiodarone considering that might reocur? To be mentioned that in A&E dept he was in sinus rhythm ( spontaneous converted), but extensive ischemic changes in all ECG leads( that can also be associated with prolonged arythmia ).
    The VT reocured 90 min later. It was pulsless VT and required shocked.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      This depends on a number of things.
      1. Was a 12 lead ekg done in the field prior to the ER
      2. Was the 12 lead evaluated by an ER physician

      I would want to get dispatch authorization through a physician to give any antiarrhythmic medication in a situation that falls outside of standing order protocol.

      This is a complex case in which amiodarone might be indicated, but there are a lot of factors.

      Personally, if the patient was stable during transport then I would hold off on the amiodarone until arrival to the ER so that the patient can be more thoroughly evaluated.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  4. Alfred says

    The acls algorithm says 1st shock -> cpr -> 2nd shock -> epi -> 3rd shock -> amio. What if my patient converts to a perfusing rhythm after the 3rd shock, will i still give amiodarone? Thanks.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You would not need to administer the amiodarone if ROSC occurs as stated above.

      If the patient had refracture he V fib after this, amiodarone would be high on your priority list. You could basically start right where you left off and give your amiodarone after a shock.

      Kind Regards,
      Jeff

  5. jane says

    Thank you for this Q and A, i hope, they will include these possible questions in the lecture /protocol itself

  6. Hatem says

    Thanks for your clarification , I have a question
    Amiodarone is given after 3rd shock.
    That’s mean 3 consecutive shocks ,,, or 3rd shock rnen if seperated by un scohcable rhythm as ( shock , shock , unscockable, shock)Thanks

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It would mean after the third shock even if the shocks were separated by other changes in the rhythm.

      Also, there is a provider discretion and if a provider deems that it is necessary to give amiodarone earlier or not at all, they can use that expert discretion.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. Stan says

    1. Jeff, the algorithm states to give shocks if rhythm is shockable after one CPR cycle. Does this mean you need to wait through the CPR cycle? I’m pretty sure you just shock right away but I want to clarify.

    2. The algorithm states for the 2nd CPR cycle, you find IV/IO access. If a nurse could find IV/IO access in the 1st CPR cycle, can we give epinephrine during the 2nd cycle? The algorithm states to give epinephrine on the 3rd cycle.

    3. Similarly to #2, how strict is it that we give amiodarone on the 3rd CPR cycle? Do you only give amiodarone if shocking has failed x3 times? Could you mix amiodarone within one of those 3 shocks? For example, could we give it as early as in this situation. Pt unresponsive, pulseless with vfib. First start CPR, then you find rhythm is shockable, you deliver a shock and resume CPR but find pt is unresponsive to the first shock. At this time, can you give amiodarone AND/OR epinephrine during this CPR cycle? After CPR cycle you can shock again?

    4. At my hospital, nurses tend to give amiodarone UNDILUTED. When I ask them why they don’t dilute in 10-20ml of D5W they tell me patient is presumed dead at the time and they don’t really care for the vein/tissue at the time. What do you normally say to these nurses?

    5. Do you ever give an amio drip while pt is pulseless Vtach? It is not on the algorithm. Normally I see it AFTER ROSC.

    6. If amiodarone 300mg and 150mg were given during the code, do you need to give an addition 150mg iv bolus prior to the drip?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      1. The algorithm states to give shocks if rhythm is shockable after one CPR cycle. Does this mean you need to wait through the CPR cycle? I’m pretty sure you just shock right away but I want to clarify.
      A: If the arrest was witnessed then you should provide a shock as soon as the defibrillator is available. If the arrest was unwitnessed, you should provide 5 cycles of CPR and then perform a rhythm check. If the rhythm check indicates shock then you would shock.

      2. The algorithm states for the 2nd CPR cycle, you find IV/IO access. If a nurse could find IV/IO access in the 1st CPR cycle, can we give epinephrine during the 2nd cycle? The algorithm states to give epinephrine on the 3rd cycle.
      A: If there is someone specifically focused on IV access and medication administration, you can diverge from the the algorithm and give the epinephrine earlier. The VF/pulseless VT algorithm places epinephrine after the second shock to ensure that medications are not made the focus.

      3. Similarly to #2, how strict is it that we give amiodarone on the 3rd CPR cycle? Do you only give amiodarone if shocking has failed x3 times? Could you mix amiodarone within one of those 3 shocks? For example, could we give it as early as in this situation. Pt unresponsive, pulseless with vfib. First start CPR, then you find rhythm is shockable, you deliver a shock and resume CPR but find pt is unresponsive to the first shock. At this time, can you give amiodarone AND/OR epinephrine during this CPR cycle? After CPR cycle you can shock again?
      A: You would want to ensure that the epinenephrine has been given time to circulate (5 cycles of CPR) prior to giving amiodarone. If the epinephrine has been circulated then it would be ok to give the amiodaonre as long as you are emphasizing high quality CPR and early defibrillation. Neither epinephrine nor amiodarone has been shown to improve survival to hospital discharge and therefore you should focus on those things which have been shown to improve outcomes. (i.e. high quality CPR and early defibrillation)

      4. At my hospital, nurses tend to give amiodarone UNDILUTED. When I ask them why they don’t dilute in 10-20ml of D5W they tell me patient is presumed dead at the time and they don’t really care for the vein/tissue at the time. What do you normally say to these nurses?
      A: At least follow the amiodarone with 20 ml NS. This helps to more effectively bolus the medication into the central circulation where it is needed. The key is to get the medication into the central circulation as quickly as possible. Ensure that HIGH QUALITY CPR is being performed. Meds are useless if CPR is ineffective.

      5. Do you ever give an amio drip while pt is pulseless Vtach? It is not on the algorithm. Normally I see it AFTER ROSC.
      A: I have never seen a amio drip the code. I quite frequently see amiodarone used after ROSC.

      6. If amiodarone 300mg and 150mg were given during the code, do you need to give an addition 150mg iv bolus prior to the drip?
      A: No. You need to follow the infusion guidelines. Infusion #1 360 mg IV over 6 hours (1mg/min) → Infusion #2 540 mg IV over 18 hours (0.5mg/min)

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I am not aware of any antidote for treatment of amiodarone overdose.

      Activated charcoal can be given for a recent oral ingestion of excess amiodarone.

      Symptomatic treatment would be the standard of care.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  8. Shireen Squirrell says

    Hi had this question for a mid term exam (I’m a student nurse): (a) If a patient in cardiac arrest had an Arterial Line in-situ and required IV Amiodarone, could you use the Arterial line for the administration?

    I answered ‘no’ and was marked correct, but I’m not sure why this is the case? My teacher still hasn’t answered, so thought I would ask here.

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