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    • Jeff with admin. says

      imCO2 means (inspired minimum CO2). The end of inspiration on the capnography waveform is referred to as phase 1 and represents dead space gases. If you notice that the waveform baseline is elevated it can mean a couple of things. The two most common are rebreathing CO2, and contamination of the capnometer. First, ensure that the patients not rebreathing CO2. Second, trouble shoot capnography sensor and replace if contaminated. Here’s a great resource for learning about PetCO2.

  1. anna says

    Does the Joint Commission now have a standard that addresses the use of end-tidal co2 monitoring in intubated, sedated patients?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I checked on the video and the sound seems to be working ok. There are a couple of things you might try. On the actual video screen in the lower right-hand corner there is a volume control This may have been muted. Also your own PC may have muted. You might double check those settings.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. Terry says

    When using Capnography in an arrest situation how often should it be documented on the code blue record? Is there a standard?

    • Laura says

      Since we know that ETCO2 levels consistently below 10 during CPR (“with proper ventilatory rates of 8-10/min”) can be a good indicator of poor viability, it is good practice to print out a waveform if it’s included on your monitors. Therefore, at the 2min mark, when you stop COMPRESSIONS to evaluate the patient’s rhythm, continue ventilations and print a strip (if your equipment allows this)…this strip will demonstrate the patient’s underlying rhythm along with the ETCO2 reading and a capnogram hopefully demonstrating appropriate ventilation. Thus, if/when the code is called due to poor prognosis/outcome, you have proof that you have done everything appropriately and effectively and that despite your best efforts this patient was not going to improve. (information obtained from physio-control’s university course on waveform capnography)

      • Susan says

        If ETCO2 levels are consistently < 10 mmHg it seems there has not been adequate compressions delivered. Totally agree with proper ventilation rates (and volume for that matter) during the event to keep intrathoracic pressures ideal for venous blood return, but it is the ability of the rescuers to deliver excellent compressions to enable the proper gas exchange to achieve appropriate ETCO2 readings. Poor viability related to low end-tidal is related to poor compressions and low CO so I don't think this will prove everything was appropriate – might just be hard to explain why the compressions were not adequate along with the excellent ventilatory effort…

  3. narkose says

    If you palpate the endotracheal cuff upon inflation,
    you have precluded its placement in
    either the esophagus or mainstem bronchus.

    Easy to feel – even on resusci-Annie.

    Try it & do not fret about high tech gadgetry.

  4. Janelle says

    Are we supposed to intubate when the patient is in the hospital during ACLS or wait until ROSC? I was taught that the new thinking is not stop compressions to intubate but cannot find any rules regarding such in the ACLS book.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      There is no set answer to this question. The decision to intubate should be based on clinical judgment and experience of the emergency team that is working. I have seen intubation occur more often after ROSC. Recently since implementing rapid response teams, I have seen intubation occurring in the pre-arrest setting so as to thwart an arrest.

      Making the decision to intubate can be difficult because chest compressions must be stopped and the intubation process can be very time consuming. There is no easy answer.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Rach says

        Why do chest compressions have to stop? Chest compressions don’t really affect visualization of the vocal cords at all! I have intubated my last 4 codes while compressions were being performed by both another medic as well as by an Auto Pulse. Try it! You may be surprised.

      • Laura says

        I agree completely with Rach! All of our pre-hospital paremedics go through extensive training and our protocols clearly state that we will not stop compressions to intubate (we are currently at about a 78% success rate through compressions). If your providers are not experienced or confident enough to intubate through compression they need more practice and simulations.

        Waveform capnography is the gold-standard for monitoring CPR quality and determining patient viability during CPR…however, if providers are unable to intubate without detrimental effects of the patient, you can use capnography with BVM ventilations (just not as reliable/effectve).

      • Susan says

        Totally agree, Jeff. If the code is spontaneous V-fib on a POD 3 bypass patient shock and move on – just like with an ICD they won’t have suffered much hypoxia so restoring the rhythm quickly and deciding what precursed the v-fib (electrolytes, volume, etc.) will be paramount. On the other hand, the patient who has been bradying down and is discovered in PEA with a slow response is most likely hypoxic and will not respond until the airway is secured and oxygen restored.

      • Susan says

        Isn’t it true that the only reason we stop compression to provide breaths in the first place is to avoid bagging emesis, blood, etc. into the lungs? Async CPR is commenced with the advanced airway in place when there is no risk for creating aspiration – it would always be better not to stop due to the loss of coronary and cerebral perfusion during the pause in compressions. Once again, on an asphyxial or hypoxic scenario it would be essential to get the O’s on board; otherwise, especially in witnessed arrests shock and high quality compressions are paramount to ROSC and survival. Thanks for the input

  5. greertm says

    Would have loved to have viewed the video because I would like to understand better. Unfortunately, the volume was barely audible.

    Thanks,
    Thomas Greer, RN
    Nashville, TN

  6. gary crain says

    I am wondering how accurate are petco2 values when compared to abg co2 levels? What would petco2 values become in a pt who is over- ventilated say on an assist control mode. I have used petco2 a couple of times in transport with our monitor, and the values don’t seem to correlate with recent abgs

    • Chris with admin. says

      Typically there is a 4-5 mmhg difference with Petco2 being the lower value. As long as the physiologic dead space is within the normal range, there should be good correlation between the PetCo2 and the PaCo2. When physiologic dead space increases, the difference or gradient between the PaCo2/PetCo2 will be greater. Over ventilation with shallow breaths will increase physiologic dead space leading to elevated PCo2 and low or normal PetCo2.

      Regarding ACLS, PetCo2 is reliable to detect ROSC and quality of CPR.
      Kind regards, Chris

  7. Greg Morris says

    We are looking to purchase an EtCo2 device that is very small and inexpensive. The device only gives a numeric EtCo2 value and respiratory rate but does not have EtCo2 waveform. Will a numeric EtCO2 value be sufficient for determining effectiveness of chest compression and identification of ROSC?

    Thank Greg

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Yes, the machine that only has the numeric readout can be sufficient and effective for identification of ROSC if those who are using it know how to us it properly.
      Proper and regular training are essential for this type of equipment to be used effectively.
      As these devices become more the standard of care, I’m sure that they will get cheaper and more user friendly, but proper and regular training will still be of utmost importance.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  8. pratibha.varma says

    Thanks CM Jack.
    Very well explained.
    Untill now I knew of only the left shift phenomenon.
    Now everything is crystal clear, scientifically.
    pv

  9. JayB says

    I just started in an ICU and during a code the heart rate wasn’t picking up on the monitor and it was difficult to find a pulse, however the patient still had adequate end tidal. Does that mean the patient is still pulsating?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It would be hard to determine without seeing the waveform, but if the waveform was appropriate and the number continued read 35 to 40, I would try to palpate a carotid pulse. If unable to find a pulse within 10 seconds, i would resume CPR and try to palpate a pulse while CPR was in progress. That would help me to confirm that I have a correct location. Was there a particular reason why they could not find a pulse? Obesity can make it very challenging to asses pulses.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • JayB says

        The patient was morbidly obese and the at the time the code was initiated one of the leads were off. Thanks for the advice!

  10. jonas says

    Hi Jeff! This is very helpful i just want to know the difference between Waveform Capnography and the PetCO2?

    as stated above, your doing good compressions if you have between 10-20 PetCO2, but what if its 35-45mmHg? is that ROSC?

    so it means the NORMAL range of PetCO2 while doing compressions should be 10-20mmHg, then the NORMAL range for ROSC is 35-45mmHg…(stop doing compressions)

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Waveform Capnography is another name for Monitoring PetCO2 using a waveform monitor readout. PetCO2 of 35-45 mmHG would indicate ROSC. If you see a PetCO2 of 35-45 when using waveform capnography you may assume ROSC. If you see a PetCO2 of 10-20 then you are performing effective chest compressions.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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