2020 Bradycardia algorithm review | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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    • Jeff with admin. says

      No there is no situation within the bradycardia algorithm that you would start epinephrine before you give atropine.
      Atropine is the first line drug for the bradycardia algorithm.
      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Bradycardia may be physiologic in the hypothermic patient. This type of bradycardia is an appropriate response to the decreased metabolic rate that normally occurs with hypothermia. Also the hypothermic ventricle is more prone to fibrillation with any sort of irritation. Thus the irritation of TCP could induce VF. Once the hypothermic ventricle begins to fibrillate, it is more resistant to defibrillation.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  1. Adrie34 says

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    • Jeff with admin. says

      It is wise to consider the H’s and T’s any time there is an emergency whether dealing with bradycardia, tachycardia, PEA, VT/VF, or asystole.
      Finding the cause and treating it is produce the best outcome.
      Kind regards, Jeff

  2. sazima says

    I’m a little confused about unstable bradycardia treatment. Is TCP the first treatment or atropine or are they to be used simultaneously? I thought TCP was used only if atropine doesn’t work. Which one is the first treatment of choice?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      For symptomatic bradycardia, the first treatment of choice is usually atropine. However, there are a couple of things you must be aware of. AHA states “For Mobitz II and Complete block, atropine should not be relied upon.” Also, if the patient shows signs of poor perfusion and you have the capability to TCP, the TCP should not be delayed. If giving atropine will delay TCP, in any way, you should just move straight to TCP. Also, a patient with ongoing myocardial ischemia should not be given atropine since atropine increases heart rate and thus increases myocardial oxygen demand which can worsen ischemia. In a situation where there is myocardial ischemia, you should TCP at a rate no greater than 60 and prepare the patient for PCI (heart cath.)

      I would not use atropine simultaneously. If you can try atropine (no ischemia) without delaying TCP do it. If atropine would delay TCP then move to TCP without delay. Usually the physician will say get TCP ready now and give atropine stat. Depending on what the atropine does, you are ready to TCP if needed.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • sazima says

        Hello,
        I thought I had understood the treatment for unstable bradycardia but apparently I’m still not clear. I was taking my pre-assessment questions for ACLS and one of the questions is: -You are monitoring the pt and a Second degree AV block type 2 appears on the monitor with HR 50, the pt is c/o dizziness with a BP 80/40. She has an IV in place. What is your next action? The multiple choice answers are 1) Start Transcutneous pacing. 2) Give Atropine 0.5 mg IV. My answer was TCP because pt is unstable due to poor perfusion ( hypotensive). My answer was WRONG. .The correct answer was # 2. Can you please let me know why? I thought as you stated above on my last question that for this type of rhythm Atropine should not be relied upon. This made sense to me now I’m confused again. Please clarify. Thanks 🙂

      • Jeff with admin. says

        The HR is still at 50. The pt. does have hypotension, but if the IV was in place then it would be appropriate to attempt atropine as you are preparing for TCP. If the Atropine does not work then you would proceed with TCP.
        Atropine should not to be relied upon does not mean don’t give atropine.
        Kind regards,
        Jeff

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  4. daiprz says

    just to be clear Atropine still contraindicated for High degree blocks? Here everybody is confusing me they said you can use it now for all type of degrees and when I looked at the outlines doesn’t specify it either, only in that page that i mentioned before. sorry I just want to be very clear.

    • charles100000 says

      I would also enjoy the clarification of whether to initially use atropine in all cases of symptomatic bradycardia regardless level of block. the prep test for AHA ACLS seems to support giving atropine initially in symptomatic second-degree block type II, but not for complete block. thank you in advance for your help.

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Atropine may be used for any type of block but may worsen bradycardia caused by myocardial infarction due to atropine’s increasing the heart rate. In this case it would be safer to TCP at a rate of 60 and move toward some type of cardiac intervention. You should use the 12 lead ekg which is going to help determine MI and let you know whether atropine might be a problem.

        If the patient has severe symptoms, you should not delay TCP.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  5. daiprz says

    Im confused with atropine vs Tcp. Before we couldn’t use atropine for symptomatic mobit II second degree and 3rd degree A V blocks. The book says use atropine for unstable, symtomatic bradycaridas, but in page 111 states ” Do no rely on atropine in high degrees Av Blocks.and mentioned all of them. My questiion is do we use Atropine in all of them or not?

    • daiprz says

      ok i think i got it the only diferent now is i can use epinephrine or dopamine instead of TCP as my first choice but the rule still the same as before for high degree blocks. Please let me know if im incorrect
      Thanks

      • jo says

        I am concerned with the thought that I can not use dopamine if I am attempting pacing. In the event of an AMI and cardiogenic shock. The heart may not be responsive to the pacer by not capturing and dopamine may increase contractility.

      • Jeff with admin. says

        Upon on the page in the second red box down it states this: “2010 AHA Update: For symptomatic bradycardia or unstable bradycardia IV infusion chronotropic agents (dopamine & epinephrine) is now recommended as an equally effective alternative to external pacing when atropine is ineffective.”

        A dopamine or epinephrine infusion would be appropriate. Also, AHA clearly states in their guidelines that a clinician can tailor the interventions to the scenario at hand even if the AHA guidelines are deviated from. The AHA ACLS Guidelines are just “guidelines.”

        Also, the discussion that you commented on was in reference to atropine. I do apologize for the misunderstanding.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff

  6. lnelson07 says

    Lori Nelson;
    what do you have medication wise if you are pulseless bradycardia? if monitor shows brady @ 40 but patient has no pulse?

  7. Logan Kysar says

    What does the AHA recommend for stocking Atropine? Should it be .1mg/ml (1mg/10ml) or is it okay to stock .4mg/ml vials?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      The AHA has no recommendations for stocking of one over the other as far as I know. In my personal experience, I have always seen 0.1mg/ml (10 ml vials), and I really like this. It makes administration of the medications simple in an emergency situation. Nice whole numbers are good. 5ml=0.5mg. This is what I would recommend. Regards, Jeff

  8. emre says

    i didn’t understand that when we treat the patients?only are they unstable?mean that poor perfusion?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You should treat them before they are unstable. This would involve basic nursing and medical skills. If they get to the point of instability, you would use ACLS. This site only address the point at which they are unstable. I hope this makes sense.—regards, Jeff

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