ACLS and Amiodarone | ACLS-Algorithms.com

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  1. Becky Rhine says

    I am taking the acls protest and it says after one dose of epi and two shocks five amiodarone 300. Am I wrong in thinking it was after the third shock?? They only gave epi once.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Epinephrine is given after the second shock. Any subsequent doses of epinephrine are given every 3 to 5 minutes. Epinephrine is basically on it’s own timetable after the initial dose.
      The first dose of Amiodarone is always given after the third shock. Any subsequent dose of amiodarone is given after the first dose has had adequate time to circulate. This usually occurs any time after the fourth shock, but always during CPR.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  2. margaret says

    Post arrest with ROSC within several minutes, should the initial bolus dosing of amiodarone be given IVP or should it be hung as a piggyback over 10 minutes?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      This would be used only if arrhythmias persisted in the post arrest period. You do not use it as prophylactically.
      The initial bolus dosing should be given as follows:
      (after conversion) Infusion #1 360 mg IV over 6 hours (1mg/min) → Infusion #2 540 mg IV over 18 hours (0.5mg/min)

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

      • Jeff with admin. says

        It depends upon the concentration of your amiodarone mix. Let’s say you have 150mg amiodarone in a 250ml of D5W. Then you would calculate ml/hr like this:
        0.5mg/min x 60min/1hr= 30mg/hr. Then you would use desired dose (30mg/hr) divided by the dose on hand (150mg) x volume 250 = 50ml/hr. This would equal 30 mg/hr.

        Kind regards,
        Jeff
        http://www.acls-algorithms.com

  3. Alex says

    My question is if you bulus with lidocaine can you use amiodarone for a maintenance drip or do you just stay with lidocaine or vise versa?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      If the antiarrhythmic you use is effective for treatment then it would be appropriate to use this in the post arrest phase if there is any re-occurrence of the arrhythmia. Stick with what has worked. If the first does not work, try an alternative.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  4. Josh says

    After giving epinephrine, then going through a 2 minute cycle of compressions during cardic arrest, can you then give amiodarone. I know you are supposed to wait 3-5 min in between epinephrine doses, but can you slip in an amiodarone after only 2 minutes after giving epi?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Epinephrine is given after the 2nd shock during CPR. The first dose of amiodarone is given after the 3rd shock during CPR. This would be approximately 2 minutes.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      I am assuming that DCCS means “direct current counter shock.” I could not find any other meaning of this acronym.
      Amiodarone is used in the post-arrest phase only if there are continued tachyarrhythmias. AHA 2010 ACLS revisions removed the prophylactic use of amiodarone since the research showed no changes in outcomes unless there were continued tachyarrhythmias in the post arrest phase.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  5. tony g says

    Hey Jeff,

    Just to clarify, it’s alright to push epi AND amiodarone in the same round of CPR? I’ve been on codes where epi is due right after a shock has been delivered, and it’s confused crews. Amio gets put off until the next rhythm check, which is inevitably PEA or asystole, and then the amiodarone doesn’t get used at all. Also, if we get IV access early, why do we need to wait until after the “third shock” to start using amiodarone? Thank you very much

    • Jeff with admin. says

      It is ok to push epinephrine and amiodarone in the same round of CPR.

      The main reason why the amiodarone is not given until after the 3rd shock, is because AHA wants to emphasize high quality CPR over medications. There is no medication that has been shown to improve survival to hospital discharge. Because of this, medications are considered secondary.

      Remember, however, that the AHA guidelines are just guidelines. If you have IV access and your team determines that amiodarone administration may be helpful for the situation, you can and should give it.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  6. Bernd Ennig says

    Amiodarone is infused over 10 minutes. Any recommendations on what type of administration set that should be used when no pump is available? Baxter Continu-flo (10 gtt) or Secondary medication set and infusing like a piggyback method?

    • Jeff with admin. says

      When giving bolus doses with the tachycardia algorithm or during the post arrest phase, amiodarone may be administered with any type of drip set. Amiodarone should not be given as a secondary drip with other medications or IV fluids, but should be administered with a designated port or line. It is also diluted only with D5W and should be filtered.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  7. nick says

    if for atrial fibrillation, what is the maximum dosage of amiodarone? Is it advisable to give 900mg of amiodarone over 24 hours? Should we administer using glass container? TQ

  8. Thomas J Egan Jr says

    Hi Jeff,
    I just want to clarify med administration timing.
    – VT/VF –> 1st shock
    – 2 min CPR
    – VT/VF –> 2nd shock & Epi
    – 2 min CPR
    – VT/VF –> 3rd shock & 300 mg Amiodarone IVP
    – 2 min CPR
    – VT/VF –> 4th shock and ???
    In post #1 to Chuck your response to him says:
    “…300mg Amiodarone should be given after the 3rd shock and then a second dose of 150mg may be given after the 4th shock during CPR”
    At the 4th shock its time for Epi again. Would we give both Epi 1 mg — AND — Amio 150 mg? In all of my codes its always been one drug per shock…

    • Jeff with admin. says

      Epinephrine is basically on its own time table and is to be given every 3-5 minutes. You can give the epinephrine after the 2nd dose of amiodarone or whenever the 3-5 minutes has passed. Just remember to give it when you are performing CPR. This will ensure adequate distribution of the medication in the circulatory system.
      There is no hard and fast rule in AHA ACLS Guidelines that says “one drug per shock” This will be true for the first 3 shocks, but after the 3rd shock you may be giving epi and amio or lidocaine back to back.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

  9. Chuck says

    A recent conversation took place during an education session. Is Amiodarone during continuous, non-converted, ventricular fibrillation be repeated every 3 to five minutes or after 10 minutes ? If it is repeated then is there a cut off as to the amount to be administered since it is not to exceed 2.2 grams per day.

    Thank you.

    • Jeff with admin. says

      According to AHA ACLS guidelines, 300mg Amiodarone should be given after the 3rd shock and then a second dose of 150mg may be given after the 4th shock during CPR. This would put the 2nd dose at about 3 minutes after the first dose. Both doses would have been administered by the 8 minute mark. During a code, I have not seen more than this given during the arrest. It seems that is amiodarone is going to have any effectiveness as an arrhythmia, it will occur with the first two doses.

      I cannot find anything about giving more than this AHA recommendation.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

    • Jeff with admin. says

      You can learn about both monomorphic and polymorphic VT here.

      This information applies also if the patient is pulseless. The only difference is if the rhythm is with a pulse you will use the tachycardia algorithm and if the rhythm is without a pulse, you will use the pulseless arrest algorithm.

      Kind regards,
      Jeff

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